Keep in mind also that PieterH is no longer working as CEO at Wikidot, so anything he promised here may not necessarily be the case.

The place to request new features (and to get official, reliable feedback from Wikidot) is now here: http://feedback.wikidot.com Searching for existing wishes or adding your own to the list is the best place to get a prompt, official answer from the team.

Cheers,
Shane

I agree about a digest option, and we will make this. However, note that the real problem here is that annoying edit spam, which we are fixing with a better edit process based on drafts. I.e. you won't see edit notifications any longer, only publish notifications.

Any news?

I'm sure Wikidot will fix it eventually.

I have not even got a screen warning about the applications!

In Manage site > Notifications there is also a list of supposedly all notifications of my account, which is not really accurate, because only the notifications related to that site are listed there.

Besides, if I go to "Notifications" under "My account", I again get a list of "all" notifications related to my account, which is again not really the case: it contains only notifications about private messages.

I would like to have the possibility of being warned by e-mail of any event on my sites which requires an action from me. Specifically — which led me to write this post — to have the possibility of being notified by e-mail that someone has applied.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying though. If emails are grouped together, it should make things easier to read? Are you saying that Windows Live Mail now makes wikidot notifications worse some how? :S

You can set up a filter to automatically send all notifications to a different folder other than your inbox (e.g. one folder for every wikidot site that you are subscribed to) - then you can look at those folders when you want, and see only the important non-wikidot mails in your inbox.

Today I turned all notifications off - until I regain my sanity.

Would you make a report at http://bugs.wikidot.com? Thanks.

What seems to be especially helpful about design proposal 2 is that, in its verbose/non-verbose options, it distinguishes among (and splits apart) automatic Site, Category, and Page watching. These are currently fused together in user options — as "Auto-watch sites I create or join, pages I create, edit or comment" — which is problematic: I do want to auto-watch sites I create, but I don't want to auto-watch, in their entirety, sites I merely join (or have my students auto-watch every update to nav: and css: simply because they're members). Likewise for pages I create vs. pages I edit (which might mean simply cleaning up a typographical error).

I therefore rather like, but don't quite love, the new defaults for automatic subscription:

These are the cases where users are automatically subscribed, and how it works:
* Site owners, admins and mods: all traffic on the whole site.
* Site members: new pages only.
* Page creator or editor: all traffic on that page.
* Page commentor: all traffic on that page.

Again, I would prefer not to auto-watch pages I edit - if I'm editing a page I've created, I already watch it, and if I'm editing someone else's page, I probably either care enough to manually click "watch this page" or else I would prefer not to.

But in any event, this doesn't seem to address the question that keeps coming up on this discussion thread: will admins be able to configure these default settings per-site (i.e. the initial watching behavior for new users), or must the auto-subscriptions be the same for all sites?

HELP…I started this site and now I am static…I need someone to walk me through setting this site up. I have an entire class of gradstudents that want to collaborate and I need some help. Is there anyone out there????????

Sure, what's the site and what are you trying to do? You can find a lot of help on the http://community.wikidot.com site.

What's the current status?

It still works as before, but here is the design for the next revision: http://blog.wikidot.com/design:2

Related to that, http://blog.wikidot.com/design:3

-Pieter

I'm also waiting for an answer on the following question:

Is it possible to shut off watching for a whole site? Or must it be done user-by-user?

Admins should have more control over which categories can be watched, whether they want their whole site to be watchable, etc. Please, Wikidot, I'd appreciate an answer on that.

I'm not looking to shut off watching for my entire site, but rather to set the default watching behavior for users across the board; they would then be able to "inherit from default" or configure with a finer grain. For example, I would expect that most users would want to automatically watch pages they create or forum threads they comment on; I would also expect that most users would not want to automatically watch every page on the wiki, as so many users above have noted. In my case, since my users are students, many of them do not know how to set up email filters or configure their watching settings, and while I can (and will) teach them, it seems an avoidable step.

Are any of the gurus working on making default watch settings configurable by admins? Last we heard was pieterh on 17 July suggesting that we remove the watch links. But again, I'd love to see something between a) shutting the whole thing down and b) receiving tons of edit-spam by default.

What's the current status?

/Gus

From Admin of (josgm.wikidot.com)

However we are also going to review notifications in general. There's still too much email and it's not properly focussed.

Thanks
-Pieter

Is it possible to shut off watching for a whole site? Or must it be done user-by-user?

Admins should have more control over which categories can be watched, whether they want their whole site to be watchable, etc.
Please, Wikidot, I'd appreciate an answer on that.

How can I turn off this feature completely? I used Stop watching site link, but no help. My forum users are mad at me and at the moment I have no idea how I can prevent all the spams.

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Yes I found that setting, but how you do that for you site? Isn't that setting just personal setting? So how to do that in order to verify no users of my page get any extra mails? And when new users join my site, how can I be sure that they do not get any extra mails?

Alan Beer asked:

Is there a way to disable notifications for a site… I want to make changes but don't want to flood people with emails about these changes

I've read through this thread and don't see the answer to these questions. (Though I might have missed a technical response somewhere.)

Is it possible to shut off watching for a whole site? Or must it be done user-by-user?

Thanks

Such features as: "checking who is watching", setting up who can watch or sending notifications manually will be available in the nearest future.

we want to know of the members of the site who is "watching" the wiki.

I think "maybe" somehow we will need it. To keep track our site watcher… And incorporating watcher removal sound great to me… (if you busy I think this kind of new feature should be delayed …)

Area 7

Rob

It's because one of my member was actually complained to me, he surprised with the overloading email in his inbox… That's notify something that he doesn't want to… This happen because I quite often update my wiki…

Every wiki has it's particularities: for some of them notifications is a feature, for others it is a drawback. I think the default settings for notifications should be in hands of the admins. If this is technically not possible, default setting should be "inactive". IMHO

What can be watched?

You can watch whole sites, whole categories within a site, forum threads or individual pages.

Am I missing something? Under the new system, the only threads I can watch are those attached to pages. Is there some way to watch certain forum threads?

As of now I have to suggest them not to watch since most get upset when a page is tinkered with ten times in one hour… Another possibilty would be to mark some modifications as minor and give the possibility not to receive notification of such

Cheers

http://pro.wikidot.com/ticket:255 - 255: Watching not working ( code: 500)

- nothing happens…..

And: why is the "watching " buttons/links over the page edit buttons not in the stand alione buttons too?

Than we ( You) can show this on all pages even there is no Page options allowed..

Just like it's possible to customize permissions by category, can we choose where watching appears? Or alternately, is there a simple CSS fix I can apply to my forum category to make the links disappear?

OK, I'm now thinking that watching links are tied to the page options buttons, which I can toggle with page permissions. That's pretty good in this case of forum pages, but unusual in cases where users might watch a page AND not have permissions to the view the options buttons. But that's not my concern right now.

Thread updates… your thoughts?

But emails for thread updates would be even better.

For instance, it's confusing to have "watching" offered at the bottom of forum pages (forum:start, forum:recent-posts, forum:thread, etc) If a user chooses to "watch" these, they're probably assuming they're watching the thread or the forum itself. But actually they're watching changes to the coding of these pages.

Just like it's possible to customize permissions by category, can we choose where watching appears? Or alternately, is there a simple CSS fix I can apply to my forum category to make the links disappear?

S.

I'm sure this behavior would be more natural for user, if the notification system had been introduced earlier.

I have had a complaint from a former student whose membership I deleted from the wiki when she finished the class. She is getting notification emails, even though she is no longer a member! This seems a serious bug. Can anyone else confirm this problem?

Only if the wiki is private, then it is a bug. Is it private?

No, the wiki is not private. I concede that this is not technically a bug, as theoretically they may still want to watch the wiki (albeit unlikely). But I still think that the default for people who are removed from the wiki should be to automatically stop watching. They can opt in later if they want.

Now we need a standalone page button "Watching"….

I have had a complaint from a former student whose membership I deleted from the wiki when she finished the class. She is getting notification emails, even though she is no longer a member! This seems a serious bug. Can anyone else confirm this problem?

Only if the wiki is private, then it is a bug. Is it private?

@Helmuti_pdorf:

What we ( the pro-accounts) need is a possibility to get notifications for the changes and comments on wikidot.com itself!

Just scroll the www.wikidot.com site down and locate the "Start watching: site www.wikidot.com" link at the bottom, click and you're done.

WHOOOOPS: this is only available when page options are shown

What we ( the pro-accounts) need is a possibility to get notifications for the changes and comments on wikidot.com itself!

Sometimes I forget to read the "news" on wikidot main page, overlook the inserted news on Community Main page , and try and try to solve footer changes with CSS without any luck.. 2 days later I detect the news and I had worked some time for nothing…

How can we get Notifications of Wikidot.com site ( and Posts & comments) iself?

Mark

Yahoo! Groups lets you choose how you stay in touch

Individual Email - The option to choose if you want to get each group message and special notice individually and immediately, as it is posted.

Daily Digest - The option to choose if you want to see all messages but limit the amount of email you receive. We'll compile an email of up to 25 messages and send daily (special notices too!).

Special Notices - Receive only important email notices from the group moderator.

Web Only - Don't get notified of the latest happenings. Read messages only on the web.
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This would work very well the kind of workgroups we use, where wiki pages with their comments are like threads.