Wikidot released under GNU Affero General Public License v3
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Wikidot released under GNU Affero General Public License v3
michal frackowiakmichal frackowiak 1201776662|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

The Wikidot Team is happy to announce the open-source release of the Wikidot software. We are opening both the Version 1 codebase that currently powers Wikidot.com and the new development code for Wikidot 2, our next generation wiki platform, both under GNU Affero General Public License version 3.

What this basically means is that you can grab the software, install this and have your very own Wikidot! Would it not be great to have such a wiki farm at your work, school or university? We hope so and we encourage every wiki- enthusiast to consider this.

Join us at the (redesigned) Wikidot.org site and find more information about the software, downloads and resources.

See also the press release.

Good luck!
The Wikidot Team


Michał Frąckowiak @ Wikidot Inc.
Visit my blog at michalf.me

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Re: Wikidot released under GNU Affero General Public License v3
hartnellhartnell 1201788027|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

If anyone manages to install wikidot and has a large managed wikia-style wiki-farm in mind and needs a co-founder with a lot of traffic and content already, as a professional wiki developer I would certainly be interested. PM me hartnell. I get thousands of uniques daily and can now bring up to 15,000 pages with me. —hartnell

Re: Wikidot released under GNU Affero General Public License v3
michal frackowiakmichal frackowiak 1201791167|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Actually it is quite easy to install. I would say that installing software is the easiest part of running a wiki farm ;-)
I hope that the software will stabilize over the next few weeks. One thing that would have to be done is the full wiki backup/restore.

m.


Michał Frąckowiak @ Wikidot Inc.
Visit my blog at michalf.me

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salimzsalimz 1201907287|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

je suis nouveau dans se site .je suis a l'ecole nationale polythechnique

Re: Wikidot released under GNU Affero General Public License v3
Matt WilkieMatt Wilkie 1202093328|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thank you Michal and team. I can only imagine, poorly at that, how much effort it took to get the code to a releasable state. I look forward to learning wikidot from the inside out and hope to in some small way contribute to it's ongoing development.

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hrjhrj 1202104497|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Congratulations on creating a marvelous piece of software. I look forward to using the wikidot.com service.

Slightly OT:

I would like to know what is the business model (just a high level overview) so that I can trust the longevity of my content. Sorry if I sound overly skeptical but I have been burned before with free wikis.

I had developed two comprehensive wikis on schtuff.com which was ad-revenue based. But they got bought over by pbwiki and schtuff wikis had to be migrated to a new domain with a completely different wiki software. To their credit, they automated the migration to a large extent, but the usage model was completely different and hence the two wikis are now useless.

I would need some assurance before I invest too much time into creating a new wiki all over again.

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Re: Wikidot released under GNU Affero General Public License v3
Craig MacomberCraig Macomber 1202107097|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

With the open source release, should something happen to wikidot, you should be able to find or host your own server to move your wiki to (you can export all your content to be sure it never gets lost too). Wikidot seems to be funded purely off a 20% cut of ad revenue generated by the hosted sites (that means you get 80%). They also made it soundly through a long(ish) period of no apparent income at all (before the ads) so they must have some stability.

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Re: Wikidot released under GNU Affero General Public License v3
michal frackowiakmichal frackowiak 1202116858|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thank you all for a very nice welcome of the Open Source release. We got many emails from people willing to adopt Wikidot.

There are 2 things mentioned here that I would like to address:

open source & wiki migrations

One of the main points of the open-source release is that wikis could be easily migrated between Wikidot installations. This would mean that if at some point you would like to move from Wikidot.com to another server (e.g. your own), you should be able to do this seamlessly. This would also allow full backups of wikis. The thing that we need for it is the full wiki backup&restore feature. Then you simply back-up your wiki at wikidot.com and move it somewhere else. This would benefit all of us, because our users get the freedom of hosting and the guarantee of 100% wiki availability (if they are doing backups).

Of course we would like migrations to happen the other way too. But so far we had no time to analyze the PBWiki dump format nor develop an automated migration tool. As far as the wiki-syntax conversion is concerned, we have a required framework in Wikidot v 2, where all wiki pages are stored in XML format (WikiML). Moreover, we have already great transformation framework that converts our current syntax into XML and preliminary support for MediaWiki markup. There is absolutely no problem in creating rules for PBWiki. The tool can be used to convert the WikiML into text-based Wiki Syntax, so potentially could be even used with the current Wikidot 1.
I will try to set up an on-line demo later this week. It would already had a web api for transformations too.

Anyway, if someone would like to help creating migration tools for Wikidot from other wikis, it would be just more than great! Migrating wikis "by hand" is a pain." We could at least work together on syntax conversions.

our backbone (aka business model & long-term stability of wikidot.com)

This week we are writing a short newsletter to the Wikidot users that will also mention this stuff. You could find some info in the recent press release. We have created a company, Wikidot Inc, to back-up the growth of the Wikidot project. There are a few private investors and Pieter Hintjens as our CEO. This way we have secured the project so that now we can easily concentrate on the growth ;-)

We have some great plans for the next year or two, most of them are related to the open-source release. Needless to say, we want to be better than other wiki hosting providers ;-) And we still want to be free!


Michał Frąckowiak @ Wikidot Inc.
Visit my blog at michalf.me

Re: Wikidot released under GNU Affero General Public License v3
hrjhrj 1202194492|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

@craig, michal

Thanks for the info. The ability to export data into an open format + open source base does solve my problem.

If the 20-80% revenue sharing is indeed true, then IMO it is a very smart long-term plan.

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zeroinfluencerzeroinfluencer 1202663380|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Brilliant news. I'm watching with great interest. Well done Michal!

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PsammeadPsammead 1202939703|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Congratulations! I love your software and look forward to trying the new Open Source version! Well done, Michal!!

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altekaltek 1203804633|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

this is good news! wikidot is truly amazing and i love where this is going!

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